Yes, I too was fortunate and attended the NBC school at Cherry Point. I believe it was sometime during the early part of 1966. I do not have any medical problems that i know of, other than my right hand continually reaching for a can.
I remember vividly, the self administered "atropine" shot, but as i recall, they told us it was sugar water.
For some reason, while I was a LCpl and Cpl,,,i attended every school offered by the Corps. which of course had to be scheduled either before or after my mess duty stints..
Semper Fi
Bowen

I attended NBC school at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii in the summer in 1957, now 45 years later, I do not have any reactions. That I know of anyway.
SF Bill Woidyla

I attended NBC school at MCAS El Toro in 1960. I remember the injection well, it was a saline solution and so stated on the tube. I have had no adverse health problems that I would attribute to that training and exposure. The training happened to coincide with the time I started smoking and drinking though.

NBC school

Warren A. McDonald, GySgt., retired is a good friend of mine. He stayed in for 20 and I got out after 4years. When I was back home in Atlanta he attended NBC school at Ft. McClellan Alabama. Visited me on most weekends while there. He was the NBC NCOIC for the Marine Corps in later years, and he may shed some light on this subject. Contact me for his E-mail address.
Joe

NBC School

While at New River (HMM-365), I had the honor of going to the NBC Defense School at Camp Geiger. (Got me out of mess duty) I remember all the chambers, tank decontaminations with so much gear on they had to keep us hosed off. I don't know that any of my infirmities have any relationship to the course, but it did make me one unpopular dude at New River. I was transfered to Group Training and ran the gas chamber, yes folks, that was me in the hood in '68-'69.

NBC School

I attended NBC School at Camp Geiger while I was with HMM-264, I believe in 1974. Although I've recently developed type 2 diabetes, I haven't attempted to place the cause on any of my Marine Corps duties. However, one has to wonder?

NBC School

I apologize for neglecting to respond in a timely fashion to the posts on this subject. Anyway, my reason for asking about the school was because of the lck of information in my record about the school. The medical details are unimportant, but my attending physician wanted a list of the chemicals we were exposed to at the school. He was and is stymied by a medical situation involving myself and another vet who attended the school. We requested copies of/or some type of list containing information about the exposures and types of chemicals. We receive a reply from Marine headquarters>>>information is classified and cannot be released. We contact our senator...it takes him four months to get the info and a lot of aggravation. For anyone out there, at least those who attended the Cherry Point school, you will be shocked to learn exactly what you were exposed to. Very ugly stuff and for anyone who attended the scholl I would be more than happy to send a copy of the list and letter from Marine Headquarters. If you have some weird resperatory, bleeding and skin conditions that the VA does not want to hear about this info may help...could also help your doctor.

NBC School at Cherry Point NC.

Attended in late d'66 or very early '67. Got a NBC designation that didn't do much good in d'Nam. Except for those who raided the supplies of amyl nitrite for a quick buzz.

As far as wierd symptoms, I have the usual perepherial neuropathy in my feet but have never tried to see anyone in the VA about it. I developed a sudden hypothyroidsm at 50 years of age and that too can have the cronic pain in my feet attributed to it. I don't think we were exposed to anything more caustic than tear gas. The mustard and the blood/nerve agents were all simulated at that date, or so we were told...

However, temper that with the fact that NO parachute ever failed to open out of the riggers shack and shark repellant really keeps the sharks away. No one has ever come back to dispute either of those claims...

Enjoying my swamp land in Florida surrounded by aligators and skeeters...:confused:

NBC School

I appreciate the replies to my original post. My main objective was to share and alert fellow Marines about a possible connection with specific medical problems and exposure to additional exotic chemicals other than the usual defoliants. If a person reads the medical/chemical history of most of these chemical cocktails, the history provides interesting insight, information and proof that pertains to certain medical maladies that are not seen in the general population. These medical maladies occur only after exposure to a chemical such as lewisite or phosgene.

I would like to assure all who read this post that real chemicals were used and you were exposed to them...simulants was a euphemism for so called 'low dosage' concoctions. Quite meaningless, as we all react differently to any type of chemical exposure.

I also attended NBC school at CamPen, '64-'65. Got to inject something into my leg, through my utilities. Was exposed to mustard gas in very small ammounts, but enough to raise a blister on the exposed arera. Remember flunking that portion of the IG of our squadron's NBC inspection at Ky Ha, VMO-6, '65. Killed a bunch of mice in my white glove unrep box with my new Randall survival knife though before the inspection. We were totally unprepared for any NBC type of attack. Hope these youngsters have better training and equipment.
S.F.
Lanny

nbc school

Lanny, when we injected our leg with the atrofine (spelling?) liquid, we were told it was just sugar water.
This was at Pearl Harbor in 1957.
Bill Woidyla

NBC school

For jrmonroe, you said you ran the gas chamber. Question, why did they have stenciled "for official use only" on the side of the big trailer they used. What the H*** would you want to use it for unofficial use. Just joking, but it always struck me as funny to read that on the back of the big trailer.
Bill Woidyla

We didn't use a trailer.

Bill

Trailer must have been before my time. We had a building out in the boonies. I have some pictures of the chamber as people are coming out. Everyone loved me in the barracks after a day in the chamber 😉 Saw a segment on fear factor last night where they were useing CS in a Sherriffs department gas chamber. One of them lasted a whole minute and fourty three seconds. CS must have changes over the years.

Semper Fi

Also attended the Staff NCO/Officers NBC Defense course at Camp Pendelton in Nov. 64. Remember the shoot and all the different gases. Also remember growing something in the biological part. This was one of the good deals 362 gave me!! Only problem I have is two major heart operations. Most of my veins are going bad. Don"t know if this is related or not. Semper Fi.

NBC school

So far, 3 balloon angoplasties, 1 heart attack, 1 triple by pass, 1 stroke and possible replacement of my main artries to my legs. Will find out on 21 Jan. Can it be related to the NBC school? I don't know.
Bill Woidyla

Iwent to ABC (NBC) school at El Toro June of 57 . AS far as I know I have no ill affects from it . I do have diabetes type 2 and high blood pressure but I don't think it came from the school .We did get a small dose of mustard gas enough to raise a blister . We had to give the shot to our leg with the sugar water . all it got for me was that I became the ABC NCO in my squadron then when I was transfered to HMRL 261 I had that job but it was only in name because we didn't do any thing .
SEMPER FI Walt

nbc school

i was a primary 5711 (nbc nco) and attended the army course at ft mcclellan in 1958. also the nbc schools at atsugi (62), cpnc (63) and mmaf (67). ran the chamber for a while at cpnc. did the chemical drops from mag-16 birds in 66-67 at mmaf. was exposed to ga, gb, hc, ph, ck, cl and various rca agents during my career. also multiple injections of atropine and the training model of saline. while at the army cbr school we did live decon of nerve, blister and blood agents. have several medical problems at this time but not sure if chemical related. also on the orange list and was exposed to low yield rads. so....who can tell. if i can be of any assistance, contact me via daijobe@aol.com

the corps, God and country
semper fi

gasman
h&ms-16 (66-68)

ah yes , the "good ole days" ....agent orange won't hurt humans,
there's "sugar water" in that syringe ....then , all the POW's have
been returned & accounted for .........hmmmmmm ??? !!!

anyway.......I attended the NBC school @ Cherry Point in late '68 or early '69 while stationed @ New River after 'nam, with HMM-361. I have two things left from that school ,other than memories, a scar on my left arm from the mustard gas "reality drill" and all the notes and papers they gave us. If you think the papers would help in anyway , let me know by email & I'll get them to you. I would to see the list of everything we were exposed to , sounds interesting.

hit the wrong button.........I'll finish up .........don't know that I have any problems , thought I flushed all the toxins out when I got back to my hootch @ Surf City ,N.C. , the w/e after school & my Marine roomies & I put down a couple bottles of "Ever clear"......you did mention respiratory problems ....... for the last ten years or so , I cough up small amounts of mucous , just kind of out of the blue , no other illnesses or colds ???? .....have wondered about that ...... would appreciate any info you could share about the the respiratory issue.

NBC Schule

Our naiveté may pale if you compare it to the boys currently in Iraq as well as those who were in Dessert Storm. I would just hope that the VA has become more compassionate and attuned to those honorable men who like us of those halcyon days in D'Nam who were prepared to be willingly deracinated from the safe environs of home and thrust into harms way.

Depleted uranium micro dust and Izrocky dirt seem to be a very lethal combination with synergistic ill effect.

It is always something different in the aftermath of every war now ain’na?.

Laissez les bons temps rouler.
Toujours Fidèle,

Semper Fidelis

NBC school

I went to El Toro NBC school. We drew a circle on our arms with a grease pencil & put a drop of mustard gas in it. That spot grew to the size of a pingpong ball & I still have the scar. . . I guess that was to let us know that we should not breath the stuff.

Well, I have to reread the latest replies and will get back to everyone with a list of goodies that we were exposed to that were 'NOT' suppose to harm or hurt us....and fairies only exist in Ireland under toad stools...

As for Eyerack and the depleted uranium and other bio hazards that our trioops were exposed to in Eyeracki 1 ...IT'S NOT THE PROBLEM. Ask anyone at the VA or Pentagon....it sounds like familiar refrain to me. Bottom line, they send you somewhere healthy, you return, you are sick...I do not give a rats buttocks about the how, when or why...you're entitled to free treatment and a disability rating...end of story.............

NBC school hazards

I attended the Army NBC school at Ft. McClellan, Al for 30 days in mid 1968. I was exposed to tear gas and the small bit of blistering mustard agent on my arm. We did not do any injections as I recall.

I am also hypothyroid, and suffer from a bit of PTSD.

Mostly the injections I experienced were of a more personal nature, between me and a few of the the MANY W.A.C. army officer trianees that were also posted there. that was a fun tdy! I did manage to pass and become the m.o.s. 5711 for MAG-56 at LTA Santa Anna for a few months before getting out, late '68.

wilco@excite.com

Capt. bill collier

Chemical exposures/NBC School

To all:

In case no one has been advised, the VA is now looking for WW 2 vets exposed to mustard gas, Lewisite and other gases during their service. I have inquired of the VA why only WW 2 vets are being searched out? As of yet, no reply to my letters, phone calls, or FAXES. I have spoken with a couple of people at the VA, who have indicated, or think, this search pertains only to WW 2 vets, but no definite answer.

The VA is now admitting there is a connection between exposure to these chemicals and medical problems with vets who were exposed to them.

I do want to clarrify a recurrent comment in these posts in regard to the 'injection' required while attending NBC School. Our surrette was clearly marked 'Atropine' and was orange in color if I remember correctly. No one said anything about it being a 'sugar/water' injection. The injection of the atropine, a potent chemical for anyone familiar with its effects and action, was dangerous in, and of itself.

S/F Gordo