Re: Question for the "22' supporters

I agree with you as well RetiredMarine. I will express my opinion when the 46 is despertely needed, and they don't have any, especially when the 22 is grounded. I believe as you do. It was just money in boeings pocket. Semper Fi, and READY-APP.

Re: Question for the "22' supporters

Sounds like they got the bugs out, but maybe not enough buck$ in.
http://www.npr.org/2011/10/24/141589693/the-osprey-good-reviews-but-a-costly-program

Re: Question for the "22' supporters

Dale A Riley;34276 wrote: Sounds like they got the bugs out, but maybe not enough buck$ in.
http://www.npr.org/2011/10/24/141589693/the-osprey-good-reviews-but-a-costly-program

Lool at the organization who published the article, NPR, Nuf' said

Re: Question for the "22' supporters

Question for the 22 people. The other night I was waching either the military channel or discovery and they had this BS about all the things the 22 can do and showed a training exersize where when they picked up the troops they were rescuing the rear ramp was only partially down. Having been a grunt for a long time with a pack on my back and full load that would have been the last thing I wanted to see. Will the rear ramp not go all the way like the 46 and 53/? Also the narrator kept calling it the seahawk what was that all about

Re: Question for the "22' supporters

John Ace Hunt;31135 wrote: The 46 does NOT need to be replaced. It can do more than any huey can wether anyone likes it or not. The huey can not do a button-hook, no way. The 46 can, did, and with the right Pilot, can do it again. But, its to old, and needs replaced. With what? They have nothing that can out do the 46 even now, and they are still shuting them down. Yep, the new boy can out fly it, as its fast. I do believe thats all it has going for it. I'll be the 1st one day, to say, 'I told you so', Yep, I told you so. Semper Fi, and READY-APP.

"The huey can not do a button-hook, no way." Wrong...not sure about the
"N, y & Z" modles but the "good" stick jocks in did them in 66/67....only problem ...it was a tad hard on the C C's skives when the old "salts" were teaching it to the NEWB's

Re: Question for the "22' supporters

Individual Action Air Medals awarded to MV-22B crew from VMM-264:
http://www.marines.mil/unit/hqmc/Pages/Uncommonvaloruncommonaward.aspx

Re: Question for the "22' supporters

"The huey can not do a button-hook, no way." Wrong...not sure about the
"N, y & Z" modles but the "good" stick jocks in did them in 66/67....only problem ...it was a tad hard on the C C's skives when the old "salts" were teaching it to the NEWB's

Samie same with the CH-46 H2Ps learning buttonhok approaches and NIGHT CARRIER QUALS!!! WOW!! I figured if I lived through those the "real" ones would be easy.....I was almost right!!! I have a lot of stick time in the left seat, but never got to land on a carrier...Always thought I could....

Re: Question for the "22' supporters

The problem as I see it is that the Corps is being asked to do things that should never have been it's mission. We are or at least were assualt troops to assualt and hold for the army to take over we are now being asked to assualt and hold w/o any hope of the army every helping. Wrong mission for wrong troops. get back to assualt preferably ocean born assualt. We are Marines not Army for pete sake

Re: Question for the "22' supporters

Regarding doing a buttonhook in a '46: As a pilot I happen to believe executing a buttonhook is a lot easier than changing an engine in the field. I have done the first and observed the second.

Re: Question for the "22' supporters

Ray,
I have done both and either can be accomplished with the right Marine doing he training! Running out of Nr and altitude at the same time is a skill "acquired" from a talented HAC. We snuffies taught lotsa guys to change engines, just took longer to accomplish! LOL!