🙁 Just sorry to see Them go,but then back there in 65,67,etc who didn't
wonder if they would make it 10years!! I kind of felt screw over when I was put in 264 and they had the OLD 34's,and thinking how old they were,and then to think how much longer the 46es have lasted. WOW Thanks Wally

Does anybody know the Buno of the Aircraft?

Just got the BuNo from MCAS New River PAO 910-449-5277 (SSgt Robinson).

It is 153402.

Our beloved Phrogs!

This is the first on Marine Corps display! The only other one I'm aware of is Mike Clausen's bird in Charlotte...About time!! I woulda used a Marine Green "A" model, some folks are never happy! LOL!;)

Green Phrog

I agree that the old phrog just doesn't look right in gray. it should be green. But the problem is getting the green paint and working with it when you have it.

During the restoration of the "Saigon" bird, the actual Phrog that flew the American ambassador from the roof of the Embassy, which had to be green, when it came time to paint the airplane, the restoration team was told that the green paint paint was toxic and would need special handling. Oh and by the way, to mix up a batch would cost $50,000. This almost killed the project but in the end Boeing paid for the paint.

I agree that back in 1967 nobody would have bet that the Phrog would have had the service life that it has. It is second only to the Chinook (H-47) in its safety record. It is interesting that the two airplanes were designed by the same team of designers, pretty much at the same time. Many of the part numbers for components are the same. Many of the senior engineers working on th V-22 started their careers on the H-46 or the H-47. The H-47 is still in production. About 20 years ago there was a proposal for a Super Phrog, fly by wire flight controls, composite structure, new blades, more powerful engines but it didn't fly because the Osprey was supposed to replace it. That would have been something to see.

Bureau Number

Here is the history of the bureau number of this bird during the Vietnam era:
153402 CH-46D 12-Jun-67 ACCEPTED BWR FR MORTON
26-Jun-67 RECEIVED HMM-365
27-Jun-67 RECEIVED HMM-161
5-Sep-70 RECEIVED H&MS 36
29-Dec-70 RECEIVED H&MS 36 COSA
11-Mar-71 RECEIVED H&MS 36
23-Apr-71 RECEIVED H&MS 56 COSA
6-Jul-71 RECEIVED HMM-161
16-Dec-71 RECEIVED MARTD WHIDBEY ISLAND
😀

Joe Reed Bureau Number

Joe,

Here you go on yours:

151939 CH-46A 9-Aug-65 :DACCEPTED BWR FR MORTON
27-Aug-65 RECEIVED HMM-164
4-Apr-67 RECEIVED HMM-265
17-Dec-67 DAMAGED
1-Feb-68 RECEIVED FAWPRA ATSUGI
23-Jun-68 RECEIVED NAS ATSUGI A&T
6-Jul-68 RECEIVED HAMRON 16 COSA
1-Aug-68 RECEIVED HMM-165
28-Sep-70 RECEIVED H&MS 36 COSA
6-Oct-70 RECEIVED H&MS 36
6-Feb-71 RECEIVE MARTD WHIDBEY ISLAND
17-Feb-72 RECEIVED MASDC DMAFB
18-Apr-74 RECEIVED NARF CHERRY POINT
HH-46A 3-Oct-74 REDESIGNATED
28-Feb-75 RECEIVED NAF SIGONELLA
151939 CH-46A 9-Aug-65 ACCEPTED BWR FR MORTON
27-Aug-65 RECEIVED HMM-164
4-Apr-67 RECEIVED HMM-265
17-Dec-67 DAMAGED
1-Feb-68 RECEIVED FAWPRA ATSUGI
23-Jun-68 RECEIVED NAS ATSUGI A&T
6-Jul-68 RECEIVED HAMRON 16 COSA
1-Aug-68 RECEIVED HMM-165
28-Sep-70 RECEIVED H&MS 36 COSA
6-Oct-70 RECEIVED H&MS 36
6-Feb-71 RECEIVED MARTD WHIDBEY ISLAND
17-Feb-72 RECEIVED MASDC DMAFB
18-Apr-74 RECEIVED NARF CHERRY POINT
HH-46A 3-Oct-74 REDESIGNATED
28-Feb-75 RECEIVED NAF SIGONELLA

Both "my" birds!

Thanks Dave!
Had an interesting history didn't it?? YW-11 -151939, I mean. Interestingly enough, the new bird on display (above) came to HMM-365 as a new "super D" when I was there as well!! Might have been the very first CH-46 I ever flew in!!! Or drove, from the left seat!!! WOW, wish we kept that stuff for enlisted.....:D I am pleased to know that the Very First Marine display Phrog was new in my Squadron, when I was there! Makes me fell like more of a part of it for some reason....
Appreciate the info Dave!!:)

Paint for the Saigon Bird

During the restoration of the "Saigon" bird, the actual Phrog that flew the American ambassador from the roof of the Embassy, which had to be green, when it came time to paint the airplane, the restoration team was told that the green paint paint was toxic and would need special handling.

John,
Don't know if you or many of the membership is aware that our own "Slick" Katz, during his tour as Logistician for the Air Wing, approved the green painting of the active duty Phrog for the PAS 2002 Pensacola reunion. Without Slick, it would still be grey...YOU made it happen for all of us!
Thanks Colonel!!

Joe's Phrog

Joe,

The trail ends in 75'

What is/was the status after NAF Sigonella - it obviously became a Navy bird - is it still in the fleet?

S/F

Tom

151939

Tom,
Some reading between the lines is in order, I believe. Looks like it went to Cherry Point and may have been damaged beyond repair, or upgraded to "D" model, like all were that remained in the air. SInce nothing goes forward from there, my guess is, it went to Phrog heaven, wherever that is.... Don't understand the Signonella trips myself...Maybe Ken Logue could advise why that is....

Joe,

If you will look at the two posts by SgtDave, one is for 153402 and the other is for 151939.

151939 is the one that went to Signonella in 1975 as an HH-46A.

153402 the history only shows until 16-Dec-71 RECEIVED MARTD WHIDBEY ISLAND as a CH-46D.

Harry

Parts

I just wonder how stripped down it is on the inside. Countless stories of many a LCPL sneaking in to planes on "sticks" and walking out with a pretty good piece of electronic gear, wiring bundle, etc. I give it 30 days. Parts are getting pretty tight nowadays for the good 'ol Phrog.

Did y'all hear about the navy Phrog that was taken down off the "stick" at NAS North Island. Heard it was returned to service and flew around a bit before being replaced by the H-60.

Amazing. Boeing sure built a hell of a product!

The Amazing Phrog!

Did y'all hear about the navy Phrog that was taken down off the "stick" at NAS North Island. Heard it was returned to service and flew around a bit before being replaced by the H-60.

I haven't heard about it, but I'm not surprised! Usually, they get into shape as bad as Mike Clausen's bird was in Iraq, and then stripped for part so badly that they won't even make a good static display! Almost happened to Clausen's bird until someone realized it's signifigance, I'm told. Glad they saved all of them!:)

Joe 151939 was converted ro a d model in Feb 2003 then went to a Navy Squadron was sent to the bone yard in late 2003. I found the first airplane I worked a SNB5 23851 its nowq in a museum in Monroe LA. The next time I get to Louisiana I will have to go see her. SF

Old friends and aircraft

Thanks Walt,
Good info. She was a powerhouse of an "Alpa", of course I had turned the fuel control up on both engines back in the day and even I could fly her straight and level or grease on a 60 knot roll-on landing......Good memories, mostly of that old bird. I'm sure your bird has some too.... Appreciate you thinking of me.
Hope you and yours are well and in good spirits!

Hay Walt I worked on a Beech 18 (same as SNB-5) in the civilian world. Just happened they were hauling drugs with it and they (feds) took a good look at all that worked on it. We had no idea what it was used for, we were just doing an annual inspection on the side from our regular job. The guy leading the job was pushing us to get it done so he could do a run-up on it. He ran it while it was up on jacks and it hopped the jacks and poked a hole in the wing. Too bad he had to patch it on his own!
S/F
Tim

The other SNB5 39219 later became my first AC to be plane captain on. It was later sold to a civilan , The civil number was N3483.

Walt remembers!

Remember what I said! Walt never forgets!!:)

Phrog 153402

I flew 153402 as YS 6 while with HMM-162 from 1984-1987. I qual'd on it and took it over from Jimmy "JP" Paige on my first cruise in '85. It was my bird on my 2nd cruise 86-87 and several Det's in between. I logged lots of hours on that baby. She was a strong bird.

I last saw it on HMM-261's line at Al-Asad during OIF II in March 2004. It's MODEX was EM 06. I got a final picture with it after all those years. It's a shame to see it on a stick but they couldn't have picked a better one.

Col. Thacker, who dedicated it, was a boot Lt. in 162 on my second cruise. I know we flew together numerous times on that bird.

Phrogs Phorever

Ed Viera
Tiverton, RI

153402/ Al-Asad

Just a couple pics of 153402 from what I have scanned to digital.

ED

Good memories

Ed,
Great memories of a good bird! Glad yours has been kept for all to see! (Still wish it was green):D

BuNo151939

I flew this bird several times while a member of HMM164:
11/18/65 1R7 1.3 hours
3/15/66 1Q5 2.1 hours
3/18/66 1R9 3.9 hours
4/14/66 1A1 1.6 hours
4/18/66 1L .9 hours
4/18/66 1R9 2.2 hours