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  • Thirty Six inch Hole

    Watching the 33 miners being brought up in the 36 inch capsule brought to my attention the girth of so many here and almost everywhere in the U.S. . I try to imagine these 300 Lb Hawaiians in that mine with the 36 inch hole being drilled. All they could get was some spam sandwiches & some beer. They would never get out in the capsule SF Gy///Msgt Moore

  • #2
    I never thought of that until I read your post. Some of us might have to stay down a little longer until we could fit in the capsule. At least we couldn't cheat and eat what we wanted all day. SF

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    • #3
      Thirty Six inch Hole

      Paul, Jim, I would hope that they wouldn't be able to get beer, as experiments on mice have shown that they would have to be in a complete dark all the time, as when in a light situation all gained weight when they would eat most anything. They would never get out. These miners have had light since they were trapped. Not the sun light, but any form of light would have the same effect I would believe. I had thought it was a smaller hole than 36 inches. Semper Fi, and READY-APP.

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      • #4
        Hand of God

        [FONT="Book Antiqua"][SIZE="3"]God still does the impossible using Men that he's given the skills to built machines to Drill down that far. Yes it does bring back some of those times in the Nam that we face some pretty hard decisions. Even to the point of not coming back,yet we went and did the mission(with no choice) Just to feel a hand on the shoulder of each of US. God Speed[/SIZE][/FONT]

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        • #5
          Hand of God

          That is absolute there JJ. There were times we launched that I didn't know just what would happen. I have said that after I took off on the 1st mission of the Day, I'd say the Lords Prayer, and at the end would include,' Its a Beautiful Day Lord, and if its my Day to Die, its a Beautiful Day to Die', in your name Jesus I Pray amen'. I would not think of not coming back, just concentrate on the missions we had all day long, and up to about 17-18:00. Then I, and my 1st mech,(he detested me calling him that, but had to, to keep him flying all the time), would have to work on the Bird until about 01:00, 02:15, and go wash the face, after QC checked it all. Then have a bit of C rations, and go to sleep on the troop seats. The next AM, about 05:00, the Pilot would walk on the Bird, tap my foot, and say'close the clams, we are late'. That was an honor really, as 99% of the Squadron Pilots would not pull an hour of pre-flight on my Birds ever. They would let me sleep that extra hour. That was bout 7 days a week that happened. The Airline industry Pilots don't know what Flying with out much rest means, really. None of us could have done it without a bit of Divine help. We did it because we knew there were men that their lives depended on us, every day. There are missions that I will never tell anyone the rest of my life. I even have a few blacked out, and will not even think about them. But, we had Marines like I said, and you said, that their lives literly depended on little ole us, and we did it wether we thought we would come back or not. Just for them. All have the Best ones you can have. Semper Fi, and READY-APP.

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          • #6
            The Chilie Miners (A Factoid)

            As you all can see everyone is out of the mine. How?

            HERE IS HOW: FIRST OF ALL THE PRESIDENT OF CHILIE IS TAKING ALL AND I DO MEAN 'ALL' CREDIT FOR THE RESCUE. BULL *COUGH* S**T!

            HE HAS NOT ACKNOWLEDGED ANYONE BUT HIM AND HIS PEOPLE. WHAT A CROCK!

            THE GOVERNMENT OF CHILIE HAD ZERO, ZIP, NADA OR ANY MEANS TO GET THOSE PEOPLE OUT. THAT MINE HAS BEEN THERE SINCE 1885 TO MINE FOR GOLD AND COPPER; WHICH BTW; COPPER IS WORTH MORE THAN GOLD THESE DAYS.

            SO WHO CAME TO THE RESCUE? THE UNITED STATES AND THE UNITED STATES ONLY!

            1.) THE AMERICAN MINER WHO HAD A MINING CONTRACT WITH CHILIE NORTH OF THAT MINE HAD EQUIPMENT ON HAND INCLUDING THE 'TUBE' THE CAPSULE WENT THRU AND THE LARGE BULL WHEEL AND OPERATIONAL STEEL CABLE OPERATED BY ONE OF HIS 'AMERICAN EMPLOYEES' WITH TWO MORE LARGE ROLLS OF BACK UP CABLE!

            2.) THE CAPSULE ITSELF WAS DESIGNED BY NASA!

            3.) NASA ALSO PROVIDED THE DIET SUPPLEMENTS TO KEEP THEM ALIVE.

            4.) ONE PERSON; A YOUNG MAN WHO DIDN'T WANT TO BE A MINER BUT HAD TO; WAS CLAUSTROPHOBIC AND NASA WORKED WITH HIM VIA NASA VIDEO AND SOUND COMMUNICATIONS. ALL AMERICAN MADE!

            5.) THE FANCY POLARIZED $180 BUCK GLASSES THE MINERS WORE WERE INVENTED BY JAMES JANNARD; AND AMERICAN FOR OAKLEY, CALIFORNIA!

            6.) THE THREE DRILL BITS SMALL, MEDIUM THEN LARGE WERE INVENTED AND USED FROM A MINING MANUF. COMPANY OUT OF PA., USA (MADE IN AMERICA)!

            7.) SOME OF THEIR STAFF WERE ON SCENE FOR THE DRILLING ALONG WITH SOME MINING GROUPS OUT OF WEST VIRGINIA. THE DRILL BIT PART WAS NOT DONE BY ANYONE FROM CHILIE.

            8.) REMEMBER A POST ON ANOTHER THREAD ABOUT AFGHANISTAN WHERE WE WERE CHASING TALIBAN INTO CAVES AND AN AMERICAN GEOLOGIST DISCOVERED A WEALTH OF POTENTIAL MINING MINERALS AND SUCH?

            THAT GUY WAS BROUGHT IN (AN AMERICAN) TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE RESCUE EFFORT!

            9.) IT WAS NOT CHILIE; BUT THE COLLECTIVE AMERICAN MINING EXPERTS WHO DECIDED TO DRILL TO THE RESCUE CHAMBER AT AN ANGLE 11 DEGREES OFF VERTICAL.

            10.) THE LARGE YELLOW FRAME OVER THE SHAFT WAS FROM THE AMERICAN MINING GUY WHO HAD A MINING CONTRACT NORTH OF SANTIAGO.

            IF YOU NOTICED ON THAT HILL ABOVE; THERE WAS THE FLAG OF CHILIE AND THE AMERICAN FLAG AND NO OTHER FLAGS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES.

            LOWER AND BELOW THE TWO NATIONAL FLAGS THERE WERE SEVERAL SMALL RED FLAGS; ONE FOR EACH MINER AS HE WAS RESCUED. THE LITTLE RESCUE FLAGS WERE FROM CHILIE. WHOOP TEE DOO!

            11.) DOES ANYONE HERE THINK FOR A MOMENT THAT CHILIE WILL REPAY US FOR OUR EXPENSES? I DOUBT IT SERIOUSLY.

            YOUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS AT WORK. THE PRESIDENT OF CHILIE NEVER MENTIONED THE UNITED STATES; AND USED THE RESCUE TO INCREASE IS DWINDLING RATINGS. SOUNDS ALOT LIKE WASHINGTON, D.C.

            12.) THE MINERS WERE IN AN ADJACENT ROOM USED FOR EATING AND RELAXING; AND NOT IN THE ACTUAL CAVE IN AREA. HAD THEY BEEN IN THE ACTUAL MINING OR CAVE IN AREA; ALL WOULD BE DEAD.

            WHY DID IT TAKE CHILE 17 DAYS AFTER THE INCIDENT TO REALIZE SOMETHING WAS WRONG?

            13.) SINCE CHILIE WON'T ACKNOWLEDGE THE UNITED STATES NOR REPAY US; I DO HOPE WE DISMANTLE ALL OUR EQUIPMENT AND RETURN IT TO THE USA. WHY LIVE THAT ALL TOO THEM? THEY DON'T HAVE A CLUE AS TO HOW TO USE IT ANYHOW.

            14.) DON'T FORGET THAT CHILIE, BOLIVIA AND SEVERAL OTHER COUNTRIES ARE (ABOUT 15 OF THEM); ARE SENDING FORMAL PROTESTS TO WDC BECAUSE ARIZONA IS PROTECTING IT'S OWN BORDERS FROM THEIR DRUG SMUGGLING!

            ONE OTHER LITTLE MYSTERY: WHY WAS RUSSIA, NORTH KOREA AND IRAN THERE WITH CAMERA CREWS TO PHOTOGRAPH THE RESCUE OPERATION?

            RUSSIA; I GET. THE ESCAPE CAPSULE IS A VARIATION ON THE ONE THEY HAVE ON THE SPACE STATION. THE OTHERS I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

            TRY TO FIND A 'LIST' OF OTHER COUNTRIES BESIDES THE USA WHO WERE ACTIVELY IN THE RESCUE EFFORT; YOU CAN'T... OTHERWISE IF THERE WAS ANOTHER COUNTRY; THEIR NATIONAL FLAG WOULD HAVE BEEN UP THERE WITH THE CHILIE FLAG AND THE UNITED STATES FLAG.

            THAT'S A FACT!
            [FONT="Comic Sans MS"][/FONT]
            /S/ R. 'DOC' FERRELL
            (FMF-8404) VIETNAM: 1966-67
            SEMPER FIDELIS

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            • #7
              Actually a 28 inch bore.

              The bore was actually done with a 28 inch rock bit from Center Rock Inc. in
              Berlin, PA.

              Amazing technology. This bit is on a directional system that actually snaked
              around and stayed in solid rock to reach the miners.
              Attached Files

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              • #8
                Mike...

                ...thanks for the photo and post.

                American genius still at work!
                /s/ray

                Raymond J. Norton
                1513 Bordeaux Place
                Norfolk, VA 23509-1313

                (757) 623-1644

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                • #9
                  Chili Miners, a Factoid.

                  Doc, I would almost bet we will not recieve a penny for getting the miners out. I had thought it was smaller than the 36 inch, but let it go. That special Bit is very expensive, and patented, so I bet they at least will bring that home. Chili is just a sorry a country as the rest of them. Now hati wants several Billion Dollars more to re-build their country. Would they send us even a penny to re-build our Country? H*ll no.!! We get more stupid every day. Ole frog ears, wants 50 Billion more Dollars for some special project of his, on top of the 2 Billion for hati, and we do not have it. I say we stop all foreign, and aid we Americans here that need it. It seems 6 at least out of 10 is on the take scamming money from someone. I still believe in Fireing Squads. Until we get the homo judges, and closet congressmen and women out of their closet, we will keep on being a 2nd rate Country, bout as bad as they get. Why would a person spend well over 150 plus million Dollars of her own money to be Govenor, when the job only pays less than 4-5 hundred thousand bucks? She will double that during her term as Gov., before its over. Thats how crooked it is,(politics). Again have good ones. Semper Fi, and READY-APP.

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                  • #10
                    Cliff Hanger

                    [FONT="Book Antiqua"][SIZE="3"]I'm so greatful that they ALL got out. That in its self is just a BIG Blessing and answer to many prayers from all over the world. No I don't think that any pay will be sent back are way either, but then if the United States was worry about $$ no one would of went to Chile in the 1st place. That's what the whole world expect when any one of them run into trouble. Maybe Iran and a lot of others should take a look before calling us the (White Satan) Hey CHINA who help you out when Japan was kicking your butts WWII. ?????? And the list could go on and on. God Bless OUR Country......[/SIZE][/FONT]

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                    • #11
                      36 inch hole

                      I agree JJ. The list you are talking about is a very long list. Sad the people are like that. China would be speaking Japanese instead of chinese now.had we not saved them. Semper Fi, and READY-APP.

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                      • #12
                        Not sure what to tell you 'ace'?

                        You bring up some interesting questions I have wondered about for years.

                        CHILIE TOOK ALL THE CREDIT; THERE WILL BE NO PAYMENT; AND YEAH THOSE FANCY DRILL BITS FROM BERIN, PA. WILL GO BACK WITH THE REST OF THEIR STUFF.

                        AS FOR THE BIG 'O' GIVING A BILLION MORE TO HAITI; I DON'T THINK THAT WILL HAPPEN. REMEMBER, HE GAVE THEM 100 MILLION OF OUR MONEY; WITH NO TAX CREDIT FOR THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER!

                        HE ALSO SPENT ALOT MORE THAN 100 MILLION OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS WHEN HE SENT THOSE SHIPS; PLANES AND OTHER BOATS, NOT TO MENTION A USMC CARRIER DOWN THERE WITH HELO'S; AND THAT COST BIG BUCKS... AND NO TAX CREDIT FOR THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER.

                        I DOUBT HE WILL GIVE A BILLION TO HAITI SINCE HE'S ADDED TRILLIONS TO THE DEBT IN LESS THAN TWO YEARS OF OFFICE. IN HAITI NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

                        THE PEOPLE ARE STILL IN TENT CITIES; NO HOSPITALS; THE STREETS ARE STILL IMPASSABLE AND THERE ARE TONS OF (AS IN SHIP LOADS) OF FOOD STILL BEHIND GUARDED WALLS AT THE AIRPORT.

                        ADD TO THAT EXPENSE THAT MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE INJURED WERE TREATED IN FIELD HOSPITALS THEN TRANSFERRED TO OUR NAVAL HOSPITAL SHIP THEN MANY WERE EVAC'D TO MAJOR TRAUMA CENTERS IN FLORIDA. JUST KEEP YOUR CALCULATOR OUT AND RUN UP THE TAB.

                        AS FOR YOUR COMMENT ON WHY SOMEONE SPENDS AN OBSCENE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR OR THE U.S. SENATE OR U.S. HOUSE; ETC... WHEN IT ONLY PAYS A FRACTION OF WHAT THEY SPEND DURING THE CAMPAIGN....

                        WELL, FIRST OF ALL; YOU SAID 'THEIR MONEY'; IT'S NOT THIER MONEY, IT IS CONTRIBUTIONS FROM PEOPLE WHO WANT THEM TO WIN.

                        IT IS WHY BILL CLINTON WAS CONFUSED WHEN HILARY TOLD HIM SHE SPENT 50 MILLION DOLLARS TO WIN THE UNITED STATES SENATE SEAT FOR NEW YORK.

                        OBVIOUSLY THE SENATE SEAT DOES NOT PAY 50 MILLION OVER A PERIOD OF SIX YEARS. WHAT THEY GET IS THE POWER TO GARNER FAR MORE MONEY THAN THAT UNDER THE TABLE.

                        IT'S WHY I ALWAYS CHECK 'NO' ON THE FEDERAL AND STATE TAX RETURN WHERE IT ASKS IF I WANT TO CONTRIBUTE $2 BUCKS TO THE CAMPAIGN FUND? HELL NO!

                        ANYONE WHO CHECKS 'YES' THAT $2 BUCKS COMES FROM THE TREASURY; AND INCREASES THE DEBT.

                        AS YOU KNOW IN JUST A FEW DAYS (I EXPECTED IT TODAY; IF NOT NEXT FRIDAY); THE GOVERNMENT WILL ANNOUNCE THERE WILL BE NO COLA FOR SOCIAL SECURITY RECIPIENTS; WHICH MEANS NONE FOR THE VA EITHER.

                        HOWEVER WHAT YOU CAN SEE THIS LAST JUNE OR JULY AND THE YEAR BEFORE THAT AND YEARS BEFORE THAT GOING BACK DECADES; THE JOINT CONGRESS ALWAYS VOTES THEMSELVES A PAY RAISE (I MEAN BIG BUCKS); EVERY YEAR NO MATTER WHAT THE ECONOMY IS WHILE WE DON'T GET SQUAT!

                        IT WILL HAPPEN THIS COMING JUNE/JULY. JUST WATCH OR LOOK UP THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. WHEN THIS HAPPENS THE CONGRESS GIVES THEMSELVES A WHOPPING RAISE, THE OVAL OFFICE AND THE SUPREME COURT.

                        THEY ALSO GET THE BEST MEDICAL CARE IN THE BEST PLACES AT OUR EXPENSE FOR LIFE. AT THE SAME TIME (RIGHT NOW); PEOPLE ARE BEING REFUSED BY A GROWING NUMBER OF CLINICS AND SOME HOSPITALS WHO ARE ON MEDICARE!

                        SUCKS DON'T IT!

                        OBAMA CUTS FUNDING TO NASA AND NASA IS ONE OF THE AMERICAN ENTITIES (A GOVERNMENT ENTITY) WE PAY FOR WHO SEND DOWN EXPERTS TO CHILIE ALONG WITH SPECIAL FOODS; AND THE CAPSULE .... AND NASA GETS A FUNDING CUT SO BIG THEY HAVE TO (ALREADY HAVE) LAID OFF SEVERAL PEOPLE; EVEN AS THEY PREPARE FOR ANOTHER SHUTTLE LAUNCH!

                        TO HELL WITH CHILIE, HAITI AND A BUNCH OF OTHER COUNTRIES.

                        OH YEAH, FORGOT...

                        OBAMA IS FLYING ALL OVER THE COUNTRY TO CAMPAIGN FOR DEMS. SO IS HIS WIFE. DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT TAKES FOR POTUS TO FLY ANYWHERE? THE COST OF AIR FORCE ONE; ALL THE STAFF, FIGHTER ESCORTS, A HUGE CARGO PLANE WITH HIS LIMO AND USMC HELO'S NOT TO MENTION SECRET SERVICE IN PLACE IN ADVANCE TO CHECK OUT WHERE HE'LL BE.

                        THIS IS A HUGE COST TO THE TAXPAYER; SAME FOR HIS WIFE ON HER OWN FLIGHTS; AND THE SAME FOR CLINTON WHO IS FLYING AROUND WITH SECRET SERVICE IN A PRIVATE JET. WE PAY FOR IT.

                        THEY ADJOURNED BEFORE EXTENDING THE TAX CUTS WHICH WILL HURT MOST PEOPLE EXCEPT THE VERY RICH.

                        HE HAS ADDED MORE TO THE NATIONAL DEBT IN LESS THAN TWO YEARS FROM TAKING OFFICE THAN ANY OTHER PRESIDENT (THAT IS ABOUT 1.4 TRILLION PER YEAR); AND THEIR ABOUT TO TELL US WE AREN'T GETTING A COLA FOR SSA OR THE VA?

                        YEAH, YEAH, YEAH ... I CAUGHT THE MAJOR NEWS NETWORKS COVERING THE MINERS RESCUE SHOWING PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD BAWLING AND CRYING FOR JOY.

                        EVEN THE POPE GOT SOME CAMERA TIME TO SAY HOW HAPPY HE WAS OVER THIS EFFORT. THE VATICAN TAKES IN BILLIONS BUT RARELY GIVES IT AWAY. THE CHURCH OF ROME COULD HAVE FUNDED THE ENTIRE PROJECT AND NOT MISSED THE COST. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NO MORE THAN CHUMP CHANGE TO THEM.

                        MEANWHILE I HAVE MUCH MORE TO SAY ON THAT OTHER THREAD 'ATTACK ON AMERICA'.
                        [FONT="Comic Sans MS"][/FONT]
                        /S/ R. 'DOC' FERRELL
                        (FMF-8404) VIETNAM: 1966-67
                        SEMPER FIDELIS

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                        • #13
                          nothing but the best !

                          We have the best politicions money can buy !!! :d
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                          non illigitimus carborundumMAF gripe ... deadbugs on windshield...action taken...R&R with live bugs!

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                          • #14
                            Not sure whaqt to tell you.....

                            Doc, you are so right. They will send the SS people a check for 250., this next year, but nothing if we vets get it as well. Doubt it. congress did vote themselves a 3% automatic pay raise, thats for certain. Gas has gone up 15 cents a gallon, in the last 7-8 days. Everytime I go to the store I only get just a few things, the same each time, they go up 5-7 dollars twice a month. This time it was 49 bucks, before that was 35 bucks. They can not tell me the CPI has not gone up. Just a snow job. As you, I say bamma and his beauty queen must have to pay their own way, when they use air force 1 for their campaign, or own use. Neva happen GI. She is getting more flat up stairs, and almost has doubled in size down stairs. Real beauty, HUH. What is funny, she thinks she is. Ha-Ha. The AF1 has to come down some time. How long has it flown without a problem? Can't tell me that one of the Helo's, or AF1, something won't happen before long. Just a matter of averages. I sure hope he campaings in Dallas and soon. He doesn't have the guts. That is a fact. If I was Netanyahu, I'd make a standing order that anyone throwing rocks at troops, burning buildings, rioting in any manner, will be shot on site. Hey they are Gods Children, and who is going to stop them? That would put an end to just spraying water at them. Crazy as ever.!!!! Semper Fi, and READY-APP.

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                            • #15
                              How Congress Gives themselves a pay raise

                              Here it is.. some copy and paste:
                              _______
                              "How did Congress attain the right to vote for their own pay raises and how long has this policy been in effect?"

                              Article I, Section 6 of the Constitution directs Congress to determine its own pay. Historically, Congress has done this by voting for its own pay increases, establishing an independent commission and setting automatic cost-of-living adjustments.

                              Congressional salaries started at $6 per day in 1789. Until 1969, Congress raised its pay 22 times by enacting stand-alone legislation, bringing Member pay to $30,000 a year in 1965.

                              In 1967, Congress established the Commission on Executive, Legislative, and Judicial Salaries to recommend salary increases for top-level federal officials (PL 90-206).

                              The quadrennial Commission was set up to recommend rates of pay for judges, administration executives and members of Congress. The recommendations were to be submitted to the President, who in turn would recommend exact rates of pay in his Budget.

                              The recommendations would take effect within 30 days unless Congress enacted a separate pay bill or vetoed all or part of the President's plan.

                              Congress received pay increases under the procedure three times to $42,500 in 1969, $57,500 in 1977, and $89,500 in 1987 (with other raises in the interceding years).

                              The Ethics Reform Act of 1989 (PL 101-194) altered the system once again. Lawmakers authorized an automatic annual cost-of-living raise for themselves that goes into effect unless Congress acts to stop it. Congressional pay has risen almost every year as a result.

                              By law, members may not receive an increase greater than the increase in the base pay of government employees whose salaries are governed by the General Schedule. That pay scale governs the compensation of most federal employees.

                              The Federal Employees Pay Comparability Act of 1990 (PL 101-509) requires that covered employees receive an annual basic pay adjustment, including locality-based adjustments.

                              Pay raises for Congress are automatic. Thus, Congress has to act to prevent a pay raise from taking effect. Thus, the last time members of Congress received a pay increase in January of 2009 Congress did not do anything.

                              As a result, Members' pay rose from $169,300 to $174,000, a 2.8 percent increase.

                              Likewise, while Congress rejected a pay hike in January 2007, pay rose 2.5 percent in January 2008, from $165,200 to $169,300.

                              It has since prevented scheduled pay adjustments from going into effect for 2010 and 2011. In March 2009 members froze their pay at 2009 levels for the calendar year of 2010 with the passing of the Omnibus Appropriations Act (PL 111-8).

                              And in May 2010 the President signed a bill (PL 111-165) preventing cost of living adjustments from taking effect during fiscal year 2011.

                              Click herefor a list of Congressional pay levels from 1789 to 2008.

                              Frances Symes, Congress.org

                              NOW THEN: THIS IS CONFUSING SINCE YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER WHAT A REPRESENTATIVE, SENATOR, PRESIDENT AND SUPREME COURT JUSTICE EARNS PER YEAR (BASE PAY).

                              THEN YOU ADD THEIR ANNUAL SELF IMPOSED PAY RAISES ON THERE; AND THEY DO IT EVERY YEAR; THERE IS NO FREEZE.

                              MEANWHILE AS THEY DO THAT; AS I STATED THE GOV. WOULD ANNOUNCE THERE WOULD BE NO COLA FOR SSA OR THE VA AGAIN THIS YEAR.

                              ADD TO THAT THAT THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR SINCE THE BIG 'O' HAS BEEN IN OFFICE THAT THE DEBT HAS INCREASED MORE THAN A TRILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR AND WILL FOR THE NEXT 12 TO 15 YEARS NO MATTER WHO IS IN OFFICE DUE TO THE SHEER SIZE OF THE DEBT.

                              THE SSA IS NEAR EMPTY; IT WAS TO BE 'UNTOUCHABLE'; BUT THE ADMINISTRATIONS BEFORE FOR DECADES HAVE BORROWED FROM IT LEAVING WHAT AMOUNTS TO AN 'I.O.U.' THAT IS NEVER PAID.

                              YA'LL WATCH; COME THIS JUNE OR JULY; THE CONGRESS WILL VOTE ITSELF A RAISE NO MATTER WHAT; IF THEY CAN'T CALL IT A RAISE OR A COLA THEY WILL THINK UP A NEW TERM FOR IT AND DO IT AS THEY HAVE DONE EVERY YEAR.

                              THESE PAY RAISES ALSO APPLY TO OTHER FEDERAL AGENCIES AS WELL.

                              'WE THE PEOPLE' ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO DON'T GET THE PAY RAISES. 'WE THE PEOPLE' PAY FOR IT THOUGH!

                              TODAY IS SATURDAY THE 16TH OF OCTOBER, 2010. I WILL BE GOING BELOW TO THE LOCAL MARKET TO P/U A COUPLE OF 12 PACKS OF SODA, 2 - 12 PACKS OF BEER, A CARTON OF CIGS, AND A COUPLE OF FOOD ITEMS.

                              IT WILL COST ME ABOUT $210.00!!!

                              THE $250 DOLLAR STIMULUS WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET WAS VETOED BY CONGRESS; AND IT WILL BE VETOED BY CONGRESS AGAIN THIS YEAR. THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO OFFSET THE LACK OF A SSA COLA WE DIDN'T GET LAST YEAR OR THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR.

                              IN FACT THE CONGRESS WANTED TO CUT EXISTING SSA MONEY AND VA MONEY EARLIER THIS YEAR; BUT IT DIDN'T QUITE MAKE IT THRU THE SENATE. HAD IT; THEN WE'D HAVE EVEN LESS.

                              AS FOR THE FUZZY MATH THE GOV USES TO GIVE US OR NOT GIVE US A COLA IS OUT DATED. IT'S NOT SET IN STONE. FEW SEEM TO REALIZE THAT IF THEY WANTED TO THEY COULD CHANGE IT. IT DOES NEED TO BE CHANGED.

                              IT CAN BE CHANGED; BUT THEN AGAIN IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN THE GOV WOULD HAVE TO STOP GIVING THEMSELVES RAISES ON TOP OF THEIR EXISTING SALARIES AND ... PUT THAT MONEY BACK INTO THE SSA TRUST.

                              THE GOV. HAS BEEN RAIDING THE SSA COOKIE JAR FOR DECADES WITH 'I.O.U.'S AND IT SORT OF REMINDS ME OF 'CATCH-22' WHERE THE PILOT GETS IN HIS PLANE AND OPENS A LOCKER TO GET HIS PARACHUTE GEAR ONLY TO FIND IT'S BEEN BORROWED AND REPLACED WITH AN 'I.O.U.' AND HE STILL HAS TO FLY THE MISSION?

                              THE DEMS ARE CLEARLY GOING TO TAKE A BIG HIT IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. THEY HAVE ABANDONED SEVERAL STATES WHERE THE RACES ARE TOO CLOSE TO PREDICT AND SO THE 'DCCC' (DEMOCRATIC MONEY WAR CHEST) HAS ABANDONED THOSE CLOSE RACES TO GIVE IT TO OTHERS WHO MAY HAVE A BETTER CHANCE.

                              I COULD GO ON BUT FOR ANYONE INTERESTED YOU CAN GOOGLE AND FIND THE EXISTING SALARIES OF THESE PEOPLE AND DEPENDING ON WHICH SITE YOU EXPLORE THE HISTORY OF THEIR SELF VOTED PAY RAISES.

                              I WAS UP A FEW MINUTES AFTER THE DAWN OF MIDNIGHT AND I'M GOING BACK TO THE FART SACK; THEN LATER I HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO SAY ON THE OTHER THREAD 'ATTACK ON AMERICA' ... JUST WHEN I THOUGHT IT WAS AS BAD AS IT GETS; IT JUST GOT A WHOLE LOT WORSE.

                              YEAH A CAIN'T SPELL WORTH A TINKER'S DAMN EITHER. FOUR YEARS OF HIGH SCHOOL AND FIVE YEARS PLUS OF POST HIGH SCHOOL EDUCATION DOWN THE DRAIN.

                              MY SYNTAX IS IN THE TOILET TOO; NO MATTER. IF IT'S SUFFIX IS 'TAX' I WILL JUST WRITE IT OFF ON MY FED/STATE TAX RETURN.
                              [FONT="Comic Sans MS"][/FONT]
                              /S/ R. 'DOC' FERRELL
                              (FMF-8404) VIETNAM: 1966-67
                              SEMPER FIDELIS

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