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  • Phrog honored by Corps for four decades of service

    April 25, 2008 - 11:27PM
    SUZANNE ULBRICH
    DAILY NEWS STAFF

    The "Mighty Battle Phrog" has joined two of its brethren at the Aviation Memorial in Marine Corps Air Station New River.

    A special dedication ceremony and ribbon cutting was held Friday in front of the recently restored CH-46E helicopter to officially honor its contributions to the Marine Corps over the last 40 years.

    The Aviation Memorial, located just inside the New River gate, commemorates all those who died aboard New River aircraft since 1944. There are three choppers - a CH-53, CH-34 and CH-46E - on display.

    Col. Darrell L. Thacker Jr., commanding officer of MCAS New River, said he logged numerous hours on the CH-46, which has been involved in every major conflict since Vietnam.

    With 40 years of service, and just short of 11,000 flight hours, Thacker said the helicopter served six squadrons in the Marine Corps and had traveled the equivalent of 52 times around the planet. He said it served Marine Medium Helicopter Squadron 162, the oldest squadron in the air station, for 25 of its 40 years.

    "With multiple deployments and thousands of pilots flying it and maintaining it, this is not an aircraft, this is a classic," Thacker said of the helicopter.
    Thacker said it was fitting to dedicate and celebrate the legacy of the helicopter in the same year as the air station's 64th anniversary, since it has been such a key part of the Air Station's history.

    Thacker asked Bill Janning and B.J. Farrington to join him in the ribbon cutting. Janning served in the Marine Corps for 21 years in helicopter maintenance and 27 years as a Boeing field service representative. Farrington, with L-3 Communications Vertex, was the lead planner and coordinator in the restoration of the helicopter.

    "A lot of people have had their careers made on the H-46, me included," Janning said. "It has also saved a lot of lives as a med evac, and has even served in humanitarian efforts like the tsunami. It is the best assault aircraft that certainly the Marine Corps has ever had, and was designed in such a way that it could be maintained anywhere - it was designed to be maintenance-friendly."

    http://www.jdnews.com/news/helicopte...ps_marine.html
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    Workers of L-3 Vertex, who helped restore the CH-46E, gathered around at its base to admire it Friday. The CH-46E was added to the Aviation Memorial at New River Air Station.
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  • #2
    Just sorry to see Them go,but then back there in 65,67,etc who didn't
    wonder if they would make it 10years!! I kind of felt screw over when I was put in 264 and they had the OLD 34's,and thinking how old they were,and then to think how much longer the 46es have lasted. WOW Thanks Wally

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    • #3
      Does anybody know the Buno of the Aircraft?

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      • #4
        Just got the BuNo from MCAS New River PAO 910-449-5277 (SSgt Robinson).

        It is 153402.

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        • #5
          Our beloved Phrogs!

          This is the first on Marine Corps display! The only other one I'm aware of is Mike Clausen's bird in Charlotte...About time!! I woulda used a Marine Green "A" model, some folks are never happy! LOL!
          Semper Fidelis
          Joe


          Phu Bai tower:
          YW-11 for Phu Bai DASC-
          Remember, These are "A" models!
          YW-11 BuNo-151939
          '65 Model CH-46A

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          • #6
            Green Phrog

            I agree that the old phrog just doesn't look right in gray. it should be green. But the problem is getting the green paint and working with it when you have it.

            During the restoration of the "Saigon" bird, the actual Phrog that flew the American ambassador from the roof of the Embassy, which had to be green, when it came time to paint the airplane, the restoration team was told that the green paint paint was toxic and would need special handling. Oh and by the way, to mix up a batch would cost $50,000. This almost killed the project but in the end Boeing paid for the paint.

            I agree that back in 1967 nobody would have bet that the Phrog would have had the service life that it has. It is second only to the Chinook (H-47) in its safety record. It is interesting that the two airplanes were designed by the same team of designers, pretty much at the same time. Many of the part numbers for components are the same. Many of the senior engineers working on th V-22 started their careers on the H-46 or the H-47. The H-47 is still in production. About 20 years ago there was a proposal for a Super Phrog, fly by wire flight controls, composite structure, new blades, more powerful engines but it didn't fly because the Osprey was supposed to replace it. That would have been something to see.
            John

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            • #7
              Bureau Number

              Here is the history of the bureau number of this bird during the Vietnam era:
              153402 CH-46D 12-Jun-67 ACCEPTED BWR FR MORTON
              26-Jun-67 RECEIVED HMM-365
              27-Jun-67 RECEIVED HMM-161
              5-Sep-70 RECEIVED H&MS 36
              29-Dec-70 RECEIVED H&MS 36 COSA
              11-Mar-71 RECEIVED H&MS 36
              23-Apr-71 RECEIVED H&MS 56 COSA
              6-Jul-71 RECEIVED HMM-161
              16-Dec-71 RECEIVED MARTD WHIDBEY ISLAND
              David "Butch" Powell HMM-262 RVN 70-71

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              • #8
                Joe Reed Bureau Number

                Joe,

                Here you go on yours:

                151939 CH-46A 9-Aug-65 ACCEPTED BWR FR MORTON
                27-Aug-65 RECEIVED HMM-164
                4-Apr-67 RECEIVED HMM-265
                17-Dec-67 DAMAGED
                1-Feb-68 RECEIVED FAWPRA ATSUGI
                23-Jun-68 RECEIVED NAS ATSUGI A&T
                6-Jul-68 RECEIVED HAMRON 16 COSA
                1-Aug-68 RECEIVED HMM-165
                28-Sep-70 RECEIVED H&MS 36 COSA
                6-Oct-70 RECEIVED H&MS 36
                6-Feb-71 RECEIVE MARTD WHIDBEY ISLAND
                17-Feb-72 RECEIVED MASDC DMAFB
                18-Apr-74 RECEIVED NARF CHERRY POINT
                HH-46A 3-Oct-74 REDESIGNATED
                28-Feb-75 RECEIVED NAF SIGONELLA
                151939 CH-46A 9-Aug-65 ACCEPTED BWR FR MORTON
                27-Aug-65 RECEIVED HMM-164
                4-Apr-67 RECEIVED HMM-265
                17-Dec-67 DAMAGED
                1-Feb-68 RECEIVED FAWPRA ATSUGI
                23-Jun-68 RECEIVED NAS ATSUGI A&T
                6-Jul-68 RECEIVED HAMRON 16 COSA
                1-Aug-68 RECEIVED HMM-165
                28-Sep-70 RECEIVED H&MS 36 COSA
                6-Oct-70 RECEIVED H&MS 36
                6-Feb-71 RECEIVED MARTD WHIDBEY ISLAND
                17-Feb-72 RECEIVED MASDC DMAFB
                18-Apr-74 RECEIVED NARF CHERRY POINT
                HH-46A 3-Oct-74 REDESIGNATED
                28-Feb-75 RECEIVED NAF SIGONELLA
                David "Butch" Powell HMM-262 RVN 70-71

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                • #9
                  Both "my" birds!

                  Thanks Dave!
                  Had an interesting history didn't it?? YW-11 -151939, I mean. Interestingly enough, the new bird on display (above) came to HMM-365 as a new "super D" when I was there as well!! Might have been the very first CH-46 I ever flew in!!! Or drove, from the left seat!!! WOW, wish we kept that stuff for enlisted..... I am pleased to know that the Very First Marine display Phrog was new in my Squadron, when I was there! Makes me fell like more of a part of it for some reason....
                  Appreciate the info Dave!!
                  Semper Fidelis
                  Joe


                  Phu Bai tower:
                  YW-11 for Phu Bai DASC-
                  Remember, These are "A" models!
                  YW-11 BuNo-151939
                  '65 Model CH-46A

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                  • #10
                    Paint for the Saigon Bird

                    During the restoration of the "Saigon" bird, the actual Phrog that flew the American ambassador from the roof of the Embassy, which had to be green, when it came time to paint the airplane, the restoration team was told that the green paint paint was toxic and would need special handling.
                    John,
                    Don't know if you or many of the membership is aware that our own "Slick" Katz, during his tour as Logistician for the Air Wing, approved the green painting of the active duty Phrog for the PAS 2002 Pensacola reunion. Without Slick, it would still be grey...YOU made it happen for all of us!
                    Thanks Colonel!!
                    Semper Fidelis
                    Joe


                    Phu Bai tower:
                    YW-11 for Phu Bai DASC-
                    Remember, These are "A" models!
                    YW-11 BuNo-151939
                    '65 Model CH-46A

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                    • #11
                      Joe's Phrog

                      Joe,

                      The trail ends in 75'

                      What is/was the status after NAF Sigonella - it obviously became a Navy bird - is it still in the fleet?

                      S/F

                      Tom

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                      • #12
                        151939

                        Tom,
                        Some reading between the lines is in order, I believe. Looks like it went to Cherry Point and may have been damaged beyond repair, or upgraded to "D" model, like all were that remained in the air. SInce nothing goes forward from there, my guess is, it went to Phrog heaven, wherever that is.... Don't understand the Signonella trips myself...Maybe Ken Logue could advise why that is....
                        Semper Fidelis
                        Joe


                        Phu Bai tower:
                        YW-11 for Phu Bai DASC-
                        Remember, These are "A" models!
                        YW-11 BuNo-151939
                        '65 Model CH-46A

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                        • #13
                          Joe,

                          If you will look at the two posts by SgtDave, one is for 153402 and the other is for 151939.

                          151939 is the one that went to Signonella in 1975 as an HH-46A.

                          153402 the history only shows until 16-Dec-71 RECEIVED MARTD WHIDBEY ISLAND as a CH-46D.

                          Harry

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                          • #14
                            Parts

                            I just wonder how stripped down it is on the inside. Countless stories of many a LCPL sneaking in to planes on "sticks" and walking out with a pretty good piece of electronic gear, wiring bundle, etc. I give it 30 days. Parts are getting pretty tight nowadays for the good 'ol Phrog.

                            Did y'all hear about the navy Phrog that was taken down off the "stick" at NAS North Island. Heard it was returned to service and flew around a bit before being replaced by the H-60.

                            Amazing. Boeing sure built a hell of a product!

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                            • #15
                              The Amazing Phrog!

                              Did y'all hear about the navy Phrog that was taken down off the "stick" at NAS North Island. Heard it was returned to service and flew around a bit before being replaced by the H-60.
                              I haven't heard about it, but I'm not surprised! Usually, they get into shape as bad as Mike Clausen's bird was in Iraq, and then stripped for part so badly that they won't even make a good static display! Almost happened to Clausen's bird until someone realized it's signifigance, I'm told. Glad they saved all of them!
                              Last edited by Joe Reed; 06-13-2008, 14:39. Reason: Spelling
                              Semper Fidelis
                              Joe


                              Phu Bai tower:
                              YW-11 for Phu Bai DASC-
                              Remember, These are "A" models!
                              YW-11 BuNo-151939
                              '65 Model CH-46A

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