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  • DOC FERRELL
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    Attack/war on the usa my opinion

    I am typing in caps so 'i' can read what i am typing. This thread titled 'war on america' i think is as misunderstood as it was in vietnam (rvn).

    We have two separate battles going on at once against the rag-heads. One is the actual battles in the sandbox and the other is here in the usa. I think the one in the sand box will end not unlike it did for russia when they did it; afghanistan was 'their 12 year vietnam war'. The troops we have there should be pulled out and put to better use on our borders.

    Meanwhile back in conus the rag-heads are waging a war of attrition. Which has cost more? Troops in the middle east or the billions spent on terrorist activities here in the usa? Every time an airport is shutdown for any time the trickle down costs is amazing and most don't realize that.

    The rag-heads can't just open up on us here; guns blazing (en mass); so they wage a war of attrition or 'cost to us' and this happens in many ways. Every time a plane is stopped due to some weird threat; it costs us big bucks and if you look at the numbers of those incidents the bucks pile up. They know what they are doing. It happens almost every day. It happened just two days ago in two different major airports.

    They have been doing this for years and the cost is staggering. Granted; some have been captured only to be jailed and pending trial in a u.s. Court. When they should be tried in a military court at gitmo. They understand our laws and use them against us.

    The muslim religion is not moderate by any means; it is a draconian religion even within their own individual homes it is brutal.

    There are many cells here waiting to be activated and they will be sooner or later. What to expect? I would expect on a large scale activation that cells go for major infra structure. Examples would be major power grids, major bridges; dams and related targets of opportunity.

    Do they have to destroy these targets? No. All they have to do is render them un-usable for a very long time. How? Easy. A brief case full of c-4 impregnated with lots of aspirn sized tablets of cobalt-60.

    Just park the car on say the golden gate and detonate the c-4 and pellets. The explosion won't damage the bridge. It will destroy the car and driver but the cobalt - 60 will be reduced to dust and contaminate a wide area including the surrounding cities. The contamination will render the bridge unusable for a very long time since cobalt-60 has a very long half life.

    Why cobalt-60? It is extremely radioactive and very easy to obtain; it does not have to be smuggled into the country; it is available (largely unguarded) in most major to moderate sized cities. It is used for industrial x-ray of major structures looking for structural fatigue such as a bridge or stadium or a large building. You name it. It's that easy.

    They could do the same thing with the same method on the seaway from the gulf into houston or the hoover dam or the st. Law. Seaway into the great lakes. It is like the cliche goes; 'a target rich environment'.

    Then again there are other ways to wage their war of attrition. Like the proposed super mosque in nyc. Look at what that is costing us. Think about it. Itemize it like a detailed tax return. If allowed and they broke ground what would it do to wall street? Most of the buildings there around the twin towers are still un-repaired.

    If you think the last two major mkt. Fluxes in the mkt that neared a drop of 1,000 points is something wait until the rag heads get the go ahead for the super mosque.

    In many cases (outside of the obvious gunfights) much of the war in vietnam was a war of attrition. Things hanoi did to cost us there and in conus are similar to what is happening now.

    The difference between rvn and islam is we went to war against a country; not a religion; and this time we have gone to war against a religion with no country. In both cases the joint congress was not able to figure out how or what to declare war on.

    It's as vague as declaring war on drugs or declaring war on poverty, etc.

    It is ephemeral; not in the short lived sense but in the sense that one can't get a physical grasp on it. The rag heads know this. Make no mistake. Like sun-tzu said: 'know your enemy'. Clearly most americans do not.

    They believe that giving their lives for jihad will insure that they each receive 72 virgins and rivers of milk and honey. Now then....

    1.) i would find it hard to find 72 virgins on this planet today over the age of ten.
    2.) if there were rivers of milk and honey; my bee's would go nuts with happiness and i'd have a feral cat problem animal control couldn't fathom.
    3.) rag head math: There are right now about 7 to 8 billion people on this planet and one billion of them are rag heads. If one billion rag-heads think their sacrifice will bring them 72 virgins (not counting the milk and honey) that would mean we'd need at least 72 billion virgins which is much larger than the current population of planet earth.

    The majority of them can't read nor write; the majority of them are illiterate and receive their orders personally or via a television or some other media such as radio.

    Only a few are selected to be well educated and deployed to critical areas to lead the others.

    They are will funded; endless money from oil and heroin.
    We can trash the poppy fields but we can't plug their oil wells.

    We stop one leak and they find another. For instance syria is supposed to be neutral albeit muslim and somehow the terrorists are flying from the middle east/africa to syria then from damascus to northern south america. Why?

    They come in thru mexico of course and we have blocked most of their attempts (finally) to get here via amsterdam.

    What about iran? Well i suspect that sooner or later israel will nuke them with a sudden strike and get it over with just as they did in april/1967 where they took on syria, iraq and egypt all at the same time and it was over in six days.

    I remember that clearly; i was in rvn and put on a 12 hour stand-by to pack my bags and head for the sinani. Then it was over and back to quang ngai i went.

    I doubt that the current person in the oval office will see a second term or even get a distant view of one. Why would a person like him from a rich family spend those years in a predominately muslim country which still is muslim? Why is his name islamic? November/2010 will be really interesting.

    For most of you in your individual states you have seen over the years your share of political corruption; esp. In the recent year or so.

    My state of hawaii is no different. It is about as corrupt as it gets. In the late 60's and early 70's it was very corrupt and it still is (if you live here) and i have lived here for about 40 years now. I'm 63 years old and i have pretty much seen it all and hawaii is probably one of the top five most corrupt states to date. Ergo, (you know where this is going)...

    I don't care what tv says; a rich family can and does buy anything they want in this state including 'citizenship' and it would be or have been no real effort to alter records for a certain person born in kenya to suddenly be born in hawaii if you get my drift.

    The so called 'matriarch' of that family is deceased now so those secrets will never be revealed; just thought i would add that since many believe what is on paper is 'correct'.

    Some of you but i doubt many; saw in the past three days during the tv debates on the news over this nyc super mosque that some television shows were suddenly canceled because the shows in question were about to pay tribute to the lives lost on 9/11. And so it was done. However the powers that be could not stop all programming such as cnn or fox. But they did stop some programming and i saw it happen within less than 30 minutes notice. That rang my bell.

    There is a very real attack on america right now; it is a war of attrition in a time when we can't afford a dime to add to the deficit.

    How many of you know the difference between the 'deficit' and the 'national debt'? They are two different entities and while the majority of the citizens of this country do not understand the difference the rag heads do and they are working it like a nyc 'shell game' on a street corner. Where is the pea?

    I could go on and on with this diatribe but i think i will wait for some replies; if any.

    Well, there is a few more bits of info. The world of islam is for lack of a better word facist; not unlike hitler's movement bent on world domination. That was his goal and that is the goal of islam albeit hitler counted on the japanese invasion of manchuria in 1931 to take care of china while hitler dealt with europe.

    Their motives were not only based on their facist ideology but also on expansionism. The rag heads goal is world domination but it is not based upon expansionism but it is fundamentally facist in it's ideology. The difference being is one was motivated by expansionism while the other is controlled by a draconian religion and not the state.

    /s/ r. 'doc' *naturally blabby* ferrell
    semper fidelis!

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    Bunnie, I was hoping the u.n. would do it, as most of them are musslums, and thought they would get a bunch of them killed off so as when we do have to start shooting them, there would be less of them. I understand your point though. Semper Fi, and READY-APP.

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  • bunniemccosar
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    Originally posted by John Ace Hunt View Post
    Bunnie, if we do, there will be 3 wars we are fighting in at the same time. Let africa stop them, or the United Nations. I don't believe we need to do it. I hope not anyway. Semper Fi, and READY-APP.
    You can't depend on Africa to do anything!! They are killing themselves off with too many dictators, corrupt politicians, and greedy persons that want to be "kings"! If we would always "let some one else do it", it would never get done!!

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    Re: Attack/war on the usa my opinion-attack mogidushu

    Bunnie, I agree with you, and say we should put an amphibious landing on mogidshu and clean them out, instead of libya. I'd sink all their skifs, up to the mother boats. Never happen though. Semper Fi, and READY-APP.

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  • Jerome HALL
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    Originally posted by bunniemccosar View Post
    Been trying to keep track of happenings around the world and the pirates got my attention and kept it! Brought to mind - "from the halls of Montezuma, and to the shores of Tripoli", - and now the pirates of Mogadishu that killed 4 Americans and at the last count, about 600+ prisoners. And then I see the Marine Corps getting bogged down in wars that the Army was trained to do, - ours was to knock down the doors and hold the door open for at least 6 months, until the army could come in. Many can see us doing army type work, not that we can't do it (we need the combat experience) and then the Corps asking for more expensive equipment to keep us up there with the big boys, - pretty soon they are going to see that the USA doesn't need another expensive type army unit and will start thinking again that the Corps needs to be done away with!
    The Corps should be planning for a combat landing onto the "shores of Mogadishu" and straightening out their crap, and keep doing what we were trained to do, with great thought and planning, and not be restricted in the use of our combat equipment (artillery, Tanks, and Air assets). A lot, lot, lot should be done to keep the inhabitants from having to make a living from piracy. It would take time and keep "others" seeing that the Corps is doing what it is trained to do. Semper Fidelis
    You been reading my notes or are others out there seeing what seems to be coming by way of the back door? That would be for the Country to disband a certain service ( not to mention) so they Congress can save for THEIR retirements. Then Tax
    those that have put in Money and time Plus above ALL their Lives. Just thoughts!
    Last edited by Jerome HALL; 03-04-2011, 04:28.

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  • Jerome HALL
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    Originally posted by Jardo Opocensky, Jr. View Post
    Hey! Here is a novel Idea
    Don't go where the Pirates are
    Stupid is as stupid does.
    Don't make your problem our problem
    Stupid !!! It does bring a smile to ones face ,that is if they watch Forest Gump !! If you know what I mean.

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    Jardo, that sounds like a winner to me. Keep all the civillians out, and blow away the pirates. The whole area could be a free fire zone. Semper Fi, and READY-APP.

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  • Jardo Opocensky, Jr.
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    Hey! Here is a novel Idea
    Don't go where the Pirates are
    Stupid is as stupid does.
    Don't make your problem our problem

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    Re: Attack/war on the usa my opinion

    Bunnie, if we do, there will be 3 wars we are fighting in at the same time. Let africa stop them, or the United Nations. I don't believe we need to do it. I hope not anyway. Semper Fi, and READY-APP.

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  • bunniemccosar
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    Old Geezers' reflection:

    Been trying to keep track of happenings around the world and the pirates got my attention and kept it! Brought to mind - "from the halls of Montezuma, and to the shores of Tripoli", - and now the pirates of Mogadishu that killed 4 Americans and at the last count, about 600+ prisoners. And then I see the Marine Corps getting bogged down in wars that the Army was trained to do, - ours was to knock down the doors and hold the door open for at least 6 months, until the army could come in. Many can see us doing army type work, not that we can't do it (we need the combat experience) and then the Corps asking for more expensive equipment to keep us up there with the big boys, - pretty soon they are going to see that the USA doesn't need another expensive type army unit and will start thinking again that the Corps needs to be done away with!
    The Corps should be planning for a combat landing onto the "shores of Mogadishu" and straightening out their crap, and keep doing what we were trained to do, with great thought and planning, and not be restricted in the use of our combat equipment (artillery, Tanks, and Air assets). A lot, lot, lot should be done to keep the inhabitants from having to make a living from piracy. It would take time and keep "others" seeing that the Corps is doing what it is trained to do. Semper Fidelis

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    Re: Attack/war on the usa my opinion-- other countries borders

    I am glad our DHS boss is inspecting other countries borders. Just wish we could get her to inspect, and do something about OURS. We do not need to be the worlds police man, when we can't even police our own, and take care of our own. When that is taken care of, then help others, but you have to help yourself First, to be able to help others. Enough is enough. Semper Fi, and READY-APP.

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    Originally posted by lurch View Post
    I HOPE DOCs ALRIGHT to Ace ! Hope JJ ok as well sfkc
    Lurch, JJ posted a day or so ago. Believe he is doing good. Hope so as well. Semper Fi, and READY-APP.

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    Its the thought that counts Doc. Was getting a bit concerned for sure. The muslums are fighting each other now. Thats good. Hope the GOP gets smart and makes them do right. Karzai is mumbling out his ears, but other than that they are just as messed up as they ever were. They are worried about where the money will come from when ours dries up. Very soon I hope. Semper Fi, and READY-APP.

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  • DOC FERRELL
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    I am not sure I understand how this new page works or even where I am.

    I HAVEN'T POSTED IN A WHILE BEEN RATHER BUSY WITH LOTS OF STUFF AROUND HERE AND CHRISTMAS; I DID TRY LOGGING IN A FEW TIMES BEFORE THIS ENTIRE THING GOT CHANGED BUT COULDN'T GET IN FOR SOME REASON.

    NOT SURE HOW THIS WORKS; BUT I LIKED THE OLD LOOK BETTER.

    LOTS GOING ON WITH THE MUSLIMS IN EUROPE, MIDDLE EAST AND INSIDE THE USA; BUT I WAS SORTA BUSY DOING THE CHRISTMAS THING.

    I TRIED LOGGING IN A FEW TIMES TO POST A CHRISTMAS CARD TO YOU ALL.

    DIDN'T WORK; COULDN'T GET IN.

    SO, MERRY CHRISTMAS & HAU'OLE MAKAHIKI HOU! (HAPPY NEW YEAR)
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  • lurch
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    I HOPE DOCs ALRIGHT to Ace ! Hope JJ ok as well sfkc

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