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  • #16
    inefective 47 fire

    I had thought I had posted about the day we were on a Gun mission, and a 47 round came up through the ramp, and into the #2 engine compartment, blowing my main oil line almost into. It missed my Gunner on the ramp 60 less than a foot, as I still have the classified pictures of it, All the Pictures. The engine caught fire, and the power went down to nothing. Being heavy with 9 crew, and the Battallion CO, a Large Man, Col. Doty,(I believe we all had oversized 3/4 inch Chicken Plates on, I know mine was extra large), and belts and belts, and more belts of 50 cal for the 4- 50's we had as well, we went down like a rock. I've now come to the conclusion it was a lucky shot, as the gooks were engaged with our Grunts on the ground as well. We all lived, but each was injured pretty good. It was 14 days before me, and most the Crew could pass the Flight Physical again. Yes, I would say if it hit you in the right place, it was on the effective side. Semper Fi, and READY-APP.

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    • #17
      Our S4 chief SSgt Douglas got hit in the wallet with a 47 round didn't pentrate the skin but letf a big knot ,they where had 3000 feet. SgtMaj Douglas was killed in Marine Barracks explosion in Biruite. SF

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      • #18
        AK Fire

        One day at MARTD South Weymouth, while passing time, I decided to count the bullet holes in one of our H-34s. I got up to 119 on one side and gave up. Does anyone else remember beer can patches? I couldn't judge the caliber of all the holes, but the most of them looked around AK 47 size. Good thing it's not effective.

        Semper Fi

        Buck
        Scarface 48
        Firebase Simmons

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        • #19
          Ak

          An H-34 from H&MS-36 got jumped by NVA in spider holes which resulted in a whole gaggle of holes. One round went between two jugs, through the deck and glanced off the co-pilot's cyclic making a perfect "V" in it. Another went through the crew chief's ICS box ending up inside it. The round was stretched out about twice the width of a pencil lead. The radio compartment was shredded. Too many hits on that plane to list. Co-pilot was the only one hit and it was minor.

          Wayne

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          • #20
            Ak

            Good Lord Wayne. Those 34's as well as a number of others were very tough, like many of the Crews. Think 165 had a Bird come back with 167 plus holes in it. No crew were wounded. Time around mid '69. Could be wrong on that, just a small bit though. All have good ones. Semper Fi, and READY-APP.

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            • #21
              Coke can repairs

              I recall patching a hole in our '53 using a Coke can while we were down at the Special Forces base in Kontum Sept '70. You do what you have to do to get the birds back in the air. Blade tape also was an expedient repair method.
              Larry Groah[FONT="Comic Sans MS"][/FONT]

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              • #22
                AK-47 alledged #1

                The ak-47 is susposed to be rated the number 1 combat weapon produced to this point. So says the military channel. I would rather have the M-14 than a ak. The clip could be designed to hold 30 rounds as well, then see which one is better. The 47 is not very good being on target as often, but it was rated that anyway. The 14 is more accurate for certain, but they don't seem to count that. Semper Fi, and READY-APP.

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                • #23
                  M-14 Accurate

                  I totally agree. The M14 is and was an excellant rifle. The larger magazine would have been great. I really enjoyed it while on active duty. Could always count on expert at the range with my M14. SF

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                  • #24
                    M-14 accurate

                    I agree spook. I could put the rounds where I wanted then most every time. I held back, as I was not about to have my MOS changed just because they needed people that could fire well. Marksman was just fine with me. I wanted Choppers, and thats what I got. I know Marines that had their Mos's changed because of firing expert. I've seen slow motion shots of the ak on auto, and you can see the barrel bending most every shot. Semper Fi, and READY-APP.

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                    • #25
                      Actually...

                      ...I liked that twang and plastic sound of the M16 when it fired.

                      It made me feel like I was firing a toy again.
                      /s/ray

                      Raymond J. Norton
                      1513 Bordeaux Place
                      Norfolk, VA 23509-1313

                      (757) 623-1644

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                      • #26
                        AK-47-actually

                        When an MP in Chu-Lai, another Marine and I took a number of weapons to the rock quary across from the #2 gate, and fired for almost an hour the different weapons. We had the 16's, and fired those a bit as well. Thats about all I had anything to do with it. As stated before, I had a 16 double clipped at the cabin Hatch, 3 in the Crew box double clipped, and one on each side of the ramp double clipped. I was going to have a 16 ready if we were shot down, and needed one for the whole Crew. They were med-evac weapons and written off, so I kept them for escape protection if needed for us. Semper Fi, and READY-APP.

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                        • #27
                          Sop

                          Originally posted by John Ace Hunt View Post
                          When an MP in Chu-Lai, another Marine and I took a number of weapons to the rock quary across from the #2 gate, and fired for almost an hour the different weapons. We had the 16's, and fired those a bit as well. Thats about all I had anything to do with it. As stated before, I had a 16 double clipped at the cabin Hatch, 3 in the Crew box double clipped, and one on each side of the ramp double clipped. I was going to have a 16 ready if we were shot down, and needed one for the whole Crew. They were med-evac weapons and written off, so I kept them for escape protection if needed for us. Semper Fi, and READY-APP.
                          I left Vietnam,Republic of Oct. '67. At that time.,the Corps still held all medivac weapons & captured weapons as accountable & were inventoried.
                          Then came the Tet offensive & the stink really hit the fan.
                          I reckon that the paperwork got to be too much of a load.,even for our Glorious Corps.
                          S/F,Mike
                          TAKE NO PRISONERS.,SHOW NO MERCY.
                          DEATH SMILES AT EVERYONE...,MARINES SMILE BACK...

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                          • #28
                            Sop

                            Mike, that may have been so in '67, but by '69 when we would get an e-vac, I kept the 1st 6 and kept them on my Bird in case we were shot down, and as stated, if the gooks were coming in the cabin door, we all would have been able to have a 16 going out the ramp, and away from the Bird. That was my intent in keeping them. I never had anyone take them away from me. Just kept the 16's. Never would keep anything else. I did have an eye out for a sniper Rifle, but thank God we never had a sniper vac. It depended as well on wether it was a going home e-vac, or a minor injury with them going back to duty. I did have the sense enough to know weather they would be needing it again. Semper Fi, and READY-APP.

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